[personal profile] lhexa
Every so often a new line of my specific insatiability becomes visible. Greed, as you know, can be found in wanting more of what one has. But what of the greed in wanting what is true to be true? I want you to exist.

Date: 2008-11-19 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lhexa.livejournal.com
Then we'd have to know the nature of the desire. Even if we did, I'm not sure how that would work. Would it mean that the desire is prone to excess? The most obvious components - desire proportional to the importance of the object, or desire inherent in how greedy you are in general - were already given, and you say that those are not it..

I'd locate greed in how the desire relates to its object: what a person is willing to do in order to secure that object, and whether or not that object can satisfy the desire, would be parts of greed (I'm not willing to define it outright).

Then what is it you want when you say "I want you to exist"?

I want someone (whom I know to exist) to exist. Knowledge of existence is (one would think) the only way to satisfy that desire, but it didn't. The desire in question has gone away by this point, though, so I doubt I can analyze it. It wasn't "I want you to remain existing," but I'm unsure about "I want you to be around" -- there seemed to be a sense in which the person in question was not sufficiently present, or withholding a part of himself.

Intentionally, or just that you cannot reach this confirmation? And would a single confirmation be sufficient, or is it - like for the black hole effect - something that would require repeated confirmation (in the case of the black hole effect, replies from the person in question)?

If some kind of confirmation would have worked (and it wouldn't have just been a confirmation of existence), I don't know what (or what kind) it would have been.

Date: 2008-12-17 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_dw/
If the desire is gone, I don't think I can comment more about it. If you want someone to exist and he already does, then what is there to want? You say it may be related to "I want you to be around", but that just leads us back to "if the desire is gone, analysis can't be done either".

Date: 2008-12-18 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lhexa.livejournal.com
Yeah, you're right. And even when they are present, emotions and desires can only be subjected to so much analysis before that analysis changes them, perhaps beyond recognition.

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