My idea of states like the ones you describe is that they don't last because they're too far removed from ordinary states of mind. There are no analogues you can draw to make sense of them.
They are far removed, but I don't think that makes them unfathomable. I spent a great deal of this entry giving depictions of them. But you do have to resort to odd symbolism, or heavily phenomenological descriptions... that is, giving loads of small details without being able to give the broader picture.
I guess I've come to see reasoning as much less of a detached process since coming to believe this. And I trust it less.
I find it ironic that detachment is posited as vital to reasoning, when it's a mind's involvement with the world that makes knowledge possible. I don't see why you've come to trust reasoning less, though.
I hope I haven't intervened on thoughts that are still, to me, alien and slightly incomprehensible, and thus, upset you by being presumptuous. I would like to start talking again, but I wouldn't know what to say.
I'll tell you if you upset me, and frankly it's too late to intervene with these thoughts. If I have the right to request it, I would rather you risk being presumptuous when you have something relevant to say.
I don't feel any more confident than you about talking, but I shouldn't wait for a confidence I won't ever acquire. Anyway, are you still using AIM? Perhaps we could arrange a time to meet.
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Date: 2005-06-24 02:54 am (UTC)They are far removed, but I don't think that makes them unfathomable. I spent a great deal of this entry giving depictions of them. But you do have to resort to odd symbolism, or heavily phenomenological descriptions... that is, giving loads of small details without being able to give the broader picture.
I guess I've come to see reasoning as much less of a detached process since coming to believe this. And I trust it less.
I find it ironic that detachment is posited as vital to reasoning, when it's a mind's involvement with the world that makes knowledge possible. I don't see why you've come to trust reasoning less, though.
I hope I haven't intervened on thoughts that are still, to me, alien and slightly incomprehensible, and thus, upset you by being presumptuous.
I would like to start talking again, but I wouldn't know what to say.
I'll tell you if you upset me, and frankly it's too late to intervene with these thoughts. If I have the right to request it, I would rather you risk being presumptuous when you have something relevant to say.
I don't feel any more confident than you about talking, but I shouldn't wait for a confidence I won't ever acquire. Anyway, are you still using AIM? Perhaps we could arrange a time to meet.